Recent rain at TRL

[scububa]

Just heard from someone at the lake that it was way up and then talked to SLIM and he says 10'. I said, "No way" Here's the Army Corp data...

[SLIM]

And the best part, well we are not to crest for about 3 days. THis sucks. It means everything is deeper and that the vis will suck wiht all the run of that has gotten into it.

I will be at the marina Friday morning and wonder how much htey have gotten all the docks moved in. I bet it will be close or they will just be short of getting a hand on it. I know how much fun it is to move them in and out but when you ahve to do it on a emercincy setting is no fun. It is just do it fast but be keep an eye on keeping them straight and watch the powr and water lines.

Will keep you all posted ofter I have been out there. They had 5 spill gates open first part of the day and then all 10 were open later and more to come in from beaver.

SLIM

[theskull]

Thanks for the update. I'll know to look for my favorite rocks 10 ft. deeper than usual.

theskull

[scububa]

I just heard a news report. I-44 has been closed around the Waynesville area due to the Gasconade. Mile markers 140 to 145. (West of Rolla, East of Lebanon)

[SLIM]

News flash, this comes directly from a TV news staioin that spoke to CofE in Little Rock. TBL is to crest Saturday moring at 931, that is 1 foot above what CofE ownes. WOW this will be a very uniqu year at the lake. I konw that when it is high not flooded I know that it is good diving but not this high. They are to even keep the gates open and it will still crest that high. OMG it will be a sight to see.

SLIM

[chris_thompson98]

Thats crazy, How long does it usuauly take for the water to clear back up after that much rain?

[DeepDiverBob]

time to fill up the trimix tanks, and go explore the road at 220, instead of 200 that I saw it at.

I saw RBD web page was showing it was pumping about 14,700 cubic feet/minute the other night. That was almost tempting enough to drive down and just see what kind of boil that would create.

[M&P+4]

post some pictures of it if you get a chance - it's hard to imagine a lake with water levels that high.

[SLIM]

Only problem DDB is that is the creek guage and not the guage of what is comming out of RBD. It is on the Norht side of hte bridge that runs through down town so it is not going ot say what is pumping out. I have seen it when the creek is down but RBD was flowing and just the opisite.

Oh the water will clear up soon, it won't take long fo rhte runoff ot settel down and be clear. Oh trust me, I will be keeping an eye on it. That is if we can keep the rain away.

SLIM

[chris_thompson98]

Yea take some pictures if you get a chance, that sounds like a sight to see.

[SLIM]

OMG what a sight it was. Give me some time to get it figured out how to get them off my phone and loaded into computer I will post a few pics.

Water is 46* higher hten snot and still got a few more feet to go before they said it would crest.

Have had to cut all power to all the docks. Ran out of ramps to add. THe marina is CLOSED for now. WIl poat when it gets back open.

To give an idea, the water is from cove to cove. Most of the parking lot is under. You all know the pay phone? well just a small amount is out of the water. How about this, the big wooden sign with the plants around it just as you walk down the walkway to the main dock that has the SPM logo well, the logo is the only thing out of the water.

Last time it was like this was back in 90. They have changed the perdction 3 times about when and how much it will crest. I say we just wait to see what it does.

SLIM

[theskull]

Sorry it is causing y'all so much trouble.

To look for a bright side, maybe Oronogo will finally fill back up enough to exceed 200 ft. deep.

theskull

[scububa]

Wow. So where is the marina? Does it just go straight up? Or does it get pulled in towards higher ground? If gas wasn't so expensive, I'd drive down just to look. On the other hand, they still had part of 44 closed yesterday around Waynesville (according to the news).

[Quarrior]

Here's a link to a Springfield TV station, first 4 items have pictures of TRL. http://www.ky3.com/results?keywords=table+rock+lake&searchType=gen&submit=Search ("http://www.ky3.com/results?keywords=table+rock+lake&searchType=gen&submit=Search)

Here's another TV station with video. http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=18961

Here's one finally showing the marina. wholy shnit Batman. http://www.kspr.com/younews/16881296.html?img=3&mg=t

[SLIM]

Those are some good shots but it is not SPM sorry, that is Indian Point Marnia.

SLIM

[scububa]

This is an easy sign to believe!

Please, no "New Speciality" jokes :rolleyes:

[SLIM]

Let see how these show up if I can get them in corect.

[theskull]

Good thing the Marina floats! Whoever thought of that plan deserves a tuna.

theskull

[SLIM]

Going ot go bye tomorow, we are to crest then. I will take a few more of the dam area and the steps and of the marina area also.

SLIM

[theskull]

Any chance at all of being open for business next weekend?

theskull

[SLIM]

If we have power back up Yup we will be open. Hope to find out more and once ifind out, it will be passed on ASAP.

SLIM

[SLIM]

Well, I missed the cresting of the water. I got these this morning. I know you all can identify most of them and what we have. I think now we have to worry about the muddy water that is in the Long Creek and James RIver arm making its way to our area. When I drove ovet the bridge at Long Creek it was NASTY and I mean browner then mudd. Like I wont be diving unless I am getting paid to. Who knows what it will be like next weekend. I can say this, Beaver has some clear water. The parks are closed to entry but I bet I might be able to get a buddy or 2 that can get us a key to get in. Water temps down there are 50* at surface and 44* at the thermo. Vis about 30 plus. Well here they are.

[SLIM]

Oops forgot to mention that the water level is 928.80 and it did crest at 930.00

[Quarrior]

Those latest pics sure present a unique diving opportunity. Many things that are not normally underwater to see.

[theskull]

Thanks for all the awesome photos.

theskull

[scububa]

Gosh. A real mess for sure. I know Beaver is the first lake in the chain, but it's hard to believe it is clear. Seems like a lot of loose stuff will get drug in as the water recedes.

Thanks for sharing the pics. Looks like the walk to the water at the dam is a LOT shorter!

Here's a few interesting facts about normal to flood pool :

"The dam created Table Rock Lake, a boating and fishing haven with 43,100 surface acres and 745 miles of shoreline.
The dam helps control flooding in the region. When it's at the top of its flood control elevation, Table Rock Lake swells to 52,300 surface acres and its shoreline expands to 857 miles."

[theskull]

Gosh. A real mess for sure. I know Beaver is the first lake in the chain, but it's hard to believe it is clear. Seems like a lot of loose stuff will get drug in as the water recedes.

Thanks for sharing the pics. Looks like the walk to the water at the dam is a LOT shorter!

Here's a few interesting facts about normal to flood pool :

"The dam created Table Rock Lake, a boating and fishing haven with 43,100 surface acres and 745 miles of shoreline.
The dam helps control flooding in the region. When it's at the top of its flood control elevation, Table Rock Lake swells to 52,300 surface acres and its shoreline expands to 857 miles."

As Quarrior said, an extra 9,000 acres to dive right now. So much water and so little time.

theskull

[DeepDiverBob]

Looking at those steps, that sure does cut down on the walk to the bottom, and also gives a munch better place to clip off stages in between dives.

[M&P+4]

pictures are worth a thousand words and the flood is worth over about 10,000 acres. thanks for the pictures!

[chris_thompson98]

That is just something else. Hope everything gets back to normal soon. Seeing that one picture that the news station had of the water being covered in mud made me shed a tear :(

[Chum]

Thanks for the updates...how long till normal diving conditions return, in regards to visibility?

[SLIM]

I wish I could say when it will be back for great diving. That I cant tell, last time water was like this was in like 89 or 90. Umm sorry I cant dig out my logs form then, I just know that when we do have high water diving kidn of sucks for awhile. That muddy water rightnow is at the James river area over bye kimberling and the long creek arm down south

Trust me as soon as we get poer back so we can run compressor, and the water looks good to dive I will let everyone know.

SLIM

[nauifins73]

Oops forgot to mention that the water level is 928.80 and it did crest at 930.00

What is the regular elevation?

[SLIM]

What is normal? I do not know. But what is called power pool is 915.00

It changes withdifferant times of the year.

SLIM

[scububa]

What is the regular elevation?

I'd say for the past few years the level has been typically in the 915' range.
In the 90's it ran close to conservation pool. There was a drop in 2000 and a rise in 2002, until now it has banged around a couple of feet. (I am using June, July levels were the recreation use is high. Although flood control is the primary mission, you can bet there is a lot of economic pressure to have a 'normal' lake during the summer as long as there is no need to control major flooding.)
See
http://www.swl-wc.usace.army.mil/mcharts.htm
for historical level reports.

[DeepDiverBob]

SLIM, I know you cant predict the weather or anything, but how doyou think this is going to effect Dog Days in a few weeks?

[scububa]

... do you think this is going to effect Dog Days in a few weeks?

Well the graphs show that they are dropping TR about 1/2 ft per day. Bull Shoals is still rising (because of the TR gates I imagine) but is still far from flood pool, so they shouldn't have to back off the TR gates. Dog Days is 16 days away. So that puts a prediction of 920' on the table (pardon the rocky pun). I have dove at 920'.

Combined with all the lead time of the event and the fact that it is a circuit, I bet they will hold it as planned (barring any more frog stranglers).

[SLIM]

Well, I think that DOG days will be ok. Even with the high water if it is down enough to get into that seciton of the park. I think they can fix another for it. I think vis will be alright. Our big thing is the mudd stays away. I will be out at marina next few days and get a report back on what the water looks like.

SLIM

[SLIM]

Ok here is the latest I can give. Elavation as of 4pm 926.71 Still no mudy water in the area YET. Surface temps about 45 or 50. Depends on what thermometer you look at.

SLIM

[SLIM]

Well here is some info on curent conditions. I will be at marina Wednesday and will post some more once I get more time. Was able to stop bye the Dam while working today and took these pics.

As of 20:00 it was at 925.44 has come back up just a bit with all the recent rain. SHould start back down since we ar not to get any more. Well unless we get another system form later this week.

SLIM

[chris_thompson98]

Thats kinda handy actuauly, you can walk right down into the water. Just like a swimming pool ;)

[scububa]

Well, the rain just keeps coming. TRL is back up 2.5 ft.
Rain is suppose to wind down Friday and stay away until next Tues.

[SLIM]

Yup you got that right. It is comming back up. Not just from all the rain but they opend some flood gates to Beaver a few days ago. I will get pics of that tomorow sometime.

Most of the rain so far has fallen to the south of us and that will feed into us from Criket Creek and form around the southern section. So far most of the rain is light but they are still calling for heavy rains later today and this weekend. The water even started to clear up some but I dont't think it will much more.

I will keep posted as much as I can. Today at the marina we still only have power to run the main stuff like lights and computers. Still can't get anyonen to come and inspect until water goes back down again but this time it need sot go further. We are to possably get higher then what we were.

SLIM

[scububa]

Yup you got that right. It is comming back up. Not just from all the rain but they opend some flood gates to Beaver a few days ago. ...
SLIM

Not that you needed backup, but here is supporting data, it clearly shows that the Beaver gates have opened. You can see that Beaver hit flood pool (1130'). You can see both the tailwater (TW) come up and the flow rate increase corresponding to opening the gates. 9000 cfs is the maz flow rate for Beaver (by comparison, TRL is 15000).

This is a pain for all of us, but the economic impact is going to seriously start hitting you all at the lake pretty soon...

All together now...
"Rain, rain, go away!
Come again another day."

[skdvr]

Well here is some info on curent conditions. I will be at marina Wednesday and will post some more once I get more time. Was able to stop bye the Dam while working today and took these pics.

As of 20:00 it was at 925.44 has come back up just a bit with all the recent rain. SHould start back down since we ar not to get any more. Well unless we get another system form later this week.

SLIM

Just as some contrast to SLIM's pics here is a pic from 3 weeks ago at TRL.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll34/pebalsamo/pic4.jpg

Phil

[chris_thompson98]

Looks like u guys got 3+ inches again. Did the lake go back up? :mad:

[terrapinken]

Valerie just got off the phone with DUI - This DOG Days event will be Non-Diving as far as DUI is concerned. We are still hosting with DUI, and trying to have some sort of function, but Do Not plan on getting in the water
(10:42 am 11 April 08)

[DeepDiverBob]

http://www.midwestdive.com/gallery/browseimages.php?c=2

some pics I took today, in the gallery.

[scububa]

http://www.midwestdive.com/gallery/browseimages.php?c=2

some pics I took today, in the gallery.

Remarkable! Thanks for the pics and of RBD, too. It doesn't look as bad there as I expected. I guess the 'new' stabilizing wall makes it look a little tamer.

And just to think, Beaver and Norfork are in the same shape. That's a lot of water.

[mswink]

Wow, those are some incredible pictures. By the looks of it, it may be awhile before Table Rock is back to a somewhat normal state again.

The way it has been raining, I bet DUI could find a puddle somewhere deep enough to let people try suits out in! :)

Mark

[DeepDiverBob]

added 3 more pictures. The one of the wooden steps says a lot.

[nauifins73]

There are only 2 parts of the lake I am familiar with - the Marina at Kimberling Ciyt (Tri-Lakes boatdock) and over by Golden.

Bob where are your last 3 photos taken?

[scububa]

There are only 2 parts of the lake I am familiar with - the Marina at Kimberling Ciyt (Tri-Lakes boatdock) and over by Golden.

Bob where are your last 3 photos taken?

I think they were all at the dam. The stairs are at the Dewey Short visitors site. It is were we normally shore entry dive at that location. The metal handrail are mostly used by day use folks and fishermen. We normally go down the wooden steps to dive. The wooden steps had been a bit of a challenge to get up and down. It will be interesting to see how they put them back (and how long it takes.)

[DeepDiverBob]

All pictures was taken at the dam, except for the No lifeguard sign, that was at a place I believe called Gages Marina.

[terrapinken]

Wow, those are some incredible pictures. By the looks of it, it may be awhile before Table Rock is back to a somewhat normal state again.

The way it has been raining, I bet DUI could find a puddle somewhere deep enough to let people try suits out in! :)

Mark
DUI was letting people go to the water and wade around to try and get a feel for what it might be like, but no diving.

[scububa]

DUI was letting people go to the water and wade around to try and get a feel for what it might be like, but no diving.

Sounds like an interesting group was there. Too bad about the conditions. I would have liked to drop in as a DOG, but at $110 for gas for no diving was a non-starter for me. As they say in the big leagues..."There's always next year."

At this point the economic hit to a bunch of folks I know is going to be big. You can be sure when ever possible I will be Supporting the Lake.

Support your LL (Local Lake). (Norfork is also having the problems of Beaver, Table Rock and Taneycomo. They are having to flood down stream to protect the dam.)